I have Monday off! Time to go shopping.

"Birddog" (maintmgt) 07/18/2016 at 01:04 • Filed to: None

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I’m headed out to look at this 2004 F-150.

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It has all the stuff I’m looking for and “low” mileage compared to most ive seen so far.

Oddly at 168,000 miles it has a hair more than my 1995.. Much more power and way less rust though.

$10,000 still feels high for 12 year old rig.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Birddog 07/18/2016 at 01:15

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That's the worst part about new trucks being so expensive, old truck retain their value even better

Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage > Birddog 07/18/2016 at 01:29

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That’s way too high of a price for a truck like that

Birddog > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 07/18/2016 at 01:30

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Double edged sword. Especially here in Farm country. They can ask almost anything and know they'll get it.

Birddog > Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage 07/18/2016 at 01:31

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They’re all like that here. Anything with less than 200k on the clock is going to cost.

Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage > Birddog 07/18/2016 at 02:28

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Yeah, I’m just not a fan of this gen of F150. Couldn’t envision ever spending that much on one. Though, to its credit, it does look relatively clean.

Birddog > Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage 07/18/2016 at 02:34

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Funny. This is around the time I started liking them again. I’m not a fan of the 97-03 trucks at all.

Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes > Birddog 07/18/2016 at 02:51

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Yeah it does seem a little spendy but that’s just the list price. Good luck with negotiations! Buying a new car is such a rush.

Jesus, I sound like a drug addict.

Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes > Birddog 07/18/2016 at 02:52

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Other than the lightning they are pretty terrible looking.

Birddog > Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes 07/18/2016 at 02:55

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Buying a new anything is a rush.

I reloaded the 3 wheeler I just bought just so I can look at it in the parking lot at work on my breaks.

Engines, wheels and paint. Automotive Crack!

Birddog > Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes 07/18/2016 at 02:59

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Yeah. They are. Like an awkward teenager. And it seems like they rusted a lot more than previous or succeeding gens. A LOT more.

Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes > Birddog 07/18/2016 at 03:02

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Too true. I remember I had a couple good friends in high school who would do the same with their dirt scooters. Too bad you can’t put around on it at work :p

Don’t even get me started on wheels, I think I may be a budding wheel whore.

Birddog > Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes 07/18/2016 at 03:08

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I patrol the neighborhood without too much trouble.

I want to start a wheel collection. One of each I find interesting. I can hang them in the basement like Art.

Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes > Birddog 07/18/2016 at 03:12

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This was my phone wallpaper for a long time. If I could put together a collection like this I think my life would be complete.

Birddog > Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes 07/18/2016 at 03:20

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That would be awesome.

Back when I lived in Chicago I used to regularily go to a tire store on the Northwest side late at night. They had a 2 story wheel display about 100' long lit up with blue neon. I wish I had a pic. It was stunning.

Sovereign, Purveyor of Coupes > Birddog 07/18/2016 at 03:23

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Sounds about like heaven. Or maybe the ultimate man cave set up. I’m also a sucker for neon lights.

shop-teacher > Birddog 07/18/2016 at 07:11

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Yep. They’re hideous, but fortunately they’re all rusting away, so we don’t have to see them so much anymore.

shop-teacher > Birddog 07/18/2016 at 07:13

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I cannot wrap my mind around how expensive used trucks are. My truck is 10 years old, with 112k miles on it, and it’s still worth fully half of what I paid for it.

shift monkey > Birddog 07/18/2016 at 07:34

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have fun doing spark plugs on the 5.4

gawdzillla > Birddog 07/18/2016 at 10:42

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i still say silverados with the 5.3 are better buy

Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage > Birddog 07/18/2016 at 12:03

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Yeah, the 97-03 generation is without a doubt the worst. To be honest, I don’t really like any F150 from 97-14. The new ones are fantastic, but I just found this gen to be really badly built and an average performer. Would much rather have an equivalent GM truck.

Meatcoma > Birddog 07/18/2016 at 12:48

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2004 with the 5.4L v8? Isn’t that the 3v v8? I’d make sure you get a spark plug change before you sign anything. I’d also inspect the exhaust manifold.

the 2003 - 2005 ford modular engines have had issues with the plugs either cracking in half or blowing completely out and having to be heli-coiled. They also have issues with the stock exhaust manifolds warping causing an exhaust leak.

Just a heads up. The spark plug issue sounds worse than it is, but it’s a possibility and the heli-coiling can get costly. If you make sure they change the plugs before you sign, you should be good for 60-80k miles.